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O'Conner, T. P.

"Sketches in the House (1893)"


Chamberlain that he must confess that the use of the word "Herod" was
calculated to produce the retort of "Judas"; and the report is that Mr.
Chamberlain replied, "I used it on purpose," or "That was my intention,"
or some such phrase as that, which implied that he was neither surprised
nor annoyed by the retort, but had rather invited it. I lost sight of
Joe for a good time after this--there were other things which had to be
looked after; but I am told by those who were able to watch him closely,
that his face wore all through the scene which followed a look of almost
beatific happiness--the happiness of an artist who saw slowly unfolding
the drama to which he had given the impetus, and which he had fashioned
out in his own reveries.
[Sidenote: Opening of the row.]
At all events, it was not either Mr. Chamberlain's use of the word
"Herod," nor my use of the word "Judas," which really brought about the
subsequent row--except in the most indirect and remote way. Mr. Vicary
Gibbs seemed possessed by the idea that he should call the attention of
the Chairman to the use of the word "Judas"; and he singled me
out--although, of course, he knew that I was only one of many who had
used the word.


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